Thursday, August 25, 2005

On Reverend Pat

Reverend Pat Robertson has apologized for his statement about Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez made on Monday's telecast of his Christian Broadcasting Network show "The 700 Club".

Robertson had said: "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."

Then, after the firestorm erupted, he went into CYA mode, saying, "I didn't say 'assassination.' I said our special forces should 'take him out.' 'Take him out' could be a number of things including kidnapping." By the way, He said that laughingly, as if it was funny.

Now he has publicly apologized saying, "Is it right to call for assassination? "No, and I apologize for that statement. I spoke in frustration that we should accommodate the man who thinks the U.S. is out to kill him."

The second statement was a blatant lie, demonstrating to the world that this man is not what he portrays himself to be. That fact alone should be enough for the people in his organization to call for his resignation.

No one who claims to be a man of God should be allowed to continue to lead a Christian organization if he is caught in a blatant lie. Even one lie.

I don't watch his program, but let me tell you what my impression is of him based on the few times I have seen his program.

The first thing I noticed about him is that I can't seem to watch his program for more than 5 minutes before he starts talking about money. He appears to me to be fixated on that subject. I don't mean he is asking for contributions all the time. I mean the stories he covers seem to revolve around money issues a lot.

I don't want to get on the bandwagon with those that say televangelists are only in the business for the money. But I get the distinct impression that it's true of Rev. Robertson.

I have said before that I have the spiritual gift of discernment. When I meet someone that is a phony, my "spidey sense" kicks in. I get an overwhelming feeling that something isn't right about that person. I can't explain it. It's just the way I am.

I get that feeling about Robertson.

Once, I saw him on his program preaching a prayer. He closed his eyes tightly, gripped his Bible in what appeared to be a death grip, and said, "Somewhere, right now, there is someone who is being healed of chronic back pain..."

I thought, "How arrogant! How can this man sit there and make a definitive statement like that? he doesn't know anything of the kind!" This man has the audacity to claim he knows the mind of God. I don't buy that man's sanctimonious ramblings for a minute.

Remember when he ran for President a few years ago? Remember when he said God told him He wanted him to be President?

Is he President?

I don't know about Reverend Robertson's God, but when my God makes a prediction, it comes true.

Then I think about those thousands, maybe millions of people all over this country that listen faithfully to this guy, and send him money to help his ministry, to bring the Gospel to the world. I am not going to be so arrogant as to say his ministry doesn't do anything good. I don't know. Maybe he has helped and is helping many people. I know God sometimes uses even evil people to accomplish His purposes.

But Reverend Pat Robertson, in the opinion of your humble friend and uneducated blogger, is a phony.

Lie Of The Day (from Laura Ingraham's web site)
"Terrorists always come from countries we've occupied,"claimed Jodi Evans, founder of Code Pink, on the Laura Ingraham Show.

Hmmm...let's start with Mohammad Atta, who came from Saudi Arabia, a country we did not occupy. (Although Jodi's definition of "occupation" includes any country in which we have military I guess we occupy Germany as well).

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Darrell said...

Guys like Robertson have done more to damage the real message of Christ than anyone since Judas. I know what you mean about the "Spidey Sense" kicking in when you see Pat Robertson. If he's not a bad guy in disguise, then I'm Superman!

mlwhitt said...

Wow, Superman visits your blog Mark. Just kidding. When my wife and I saw the broadcast about this we just laughed as we couldn't believe it. Like you said it is men like him and some of the other "TV" evanglist that really do Christianity more damage than good.

I don't think most of them, Pat included, start out to be that way, but I think the power gets to their heads.

Sorry to see that you had to join us on the Dark Side Mark, but to me it's worth it not to have to wade though the spam.

Liam said...

And how did he forget 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'!

Personally though, the incident doesn't change my opinion; People of faith are generally perfectly civilised and decent, but TV evangelists tend to make my skin crawl.

Sheila said...

Hi Mark.

The CBN is broadcasting in 11 countries besides our own, uncluding South and Central America and wait for it.....he's worth $500 million. The more important fact I think is his broadcast of the same statement to South America. Venezuala is the leading oil furnisher to the United States in this hemosphere. Now he has this Dictator swagering with the threat. He needs to retire or The Prez/Republican Pary needs to harness him in.

rich bachelor said...

Yeah Sheila, quite so.
And of course, even if Robertson is on the fringe (as far as I've noticed) of opinion on the subject, it needs to be pointed out again that we are not empowered to kill every leader we do not like, especially for the crime of being a leftist.
If we did that, we'd be a fascist state, powered by a hyper-militarized corporate community who long since stopped caring about the well being of its target market, i.e. us.
And certainly we're better than that.
Congrats, Mark. You're sane, sir.

Mary said...

Robertson is a kook.

Particularly disturbing to me was his CYA dance before he finally apologized.

No one is perfect, but calling for someone to be assassinated isn't your average mistake, especially coming from a "Christian" in a high profile position.

To be blunt, the guy is an embarrassment and doesn't deserve the forum he has.

I do have a problem with the media and others questioning the Bush administration about the incident, as if they were responsible for

Robertson should be held accountable for what he said, not Bush.

Did the Clinton administration have to answer for every stupid thing Jesse Jackson or Michael Moore said?

Mark said...

Mary, They SHOULD have to, in my opinion.

Francis Lynn said...

Just when you think he's sane, he goes off on a mental relapse. When I see televangelists living a modest life style I will begin to have more respect for them.

tugboatcapn said...

Mark, My post yesterday was mostly intended to stir up controversy and discussion. I don't really like Robertson either, but my blog sure has been fun the last couple of days!
Robertson's comments were out of line, whether I agree with them or not. He has no business as a percieved Christian leader saying things like that. And even more disturbing than the fact that he said these things is the fact that he is now back-peddling and lying to get himself out of hot water over it.
I am very disappointed in him.
You, however, NEVER dissapoint. Great post!

Mike's America said...

So what was the reaction when George Stephanopoulis sugggested the assasination of Saddam?

Not a peep. And George was a former White House Communications Director with close ties to the Administration.

Now, all of a sudden, pounce on poor Pat Roberts for using the same free speech rights that they earnestly defend when Muther Sheehan makes some lunatic rant.

Oh well... big surprise!

Liam said...

I think you are comparing apples and oranges there Mike.

Pat Robertson is the spiritual leader of a massive ministry. He is one of the figureheads for christianity in the US and the last time I checked Christianity promoted turning the other cheek and leaving vengeance to the Lord. Also what has Chavez done to deserve assassination other than get elected, be popular with most of his people and thumb his nose at the US?

When Stephanopoulis called for Saddam to be assassinated he was trying to make his mark as a pundit in print having (as near as I can tell) just left the government, while Saddam was busily facing down the world over UN weapons inspectors and there was a real fear of a (very likely chemical/biological) war. A has-been politician trying to stay in the limelight doesn't quite have the same weight (or moral authority) as a popular religious figure with his own regular TV show seen by millions who hang on his every word.

BTW, Just for information, the UK is currently doing its best to deport muslim clerics for calling for people's assassination and generally making a nuisance of themselves. Maybe the US should follow the same tack for christian clerics doing similar things... Just a thought. ;o) Have a nice weekend.

Toad734 said...

Sometimes you can catch him jocking or rallying behind some brutal African dictator; typically the ones he is talking about are the ones who control countries where Pat Robertson owns diamond mines. Yes Pat Robertson supports slave labor and the hacking of little kid’s hands.

It's really sad that guys like him and Falwell are the ones out there representing Christianity, and claiming to have moral superiority over others.

Toad734 said...


One difference is that Pat Robertson claims to be a man of God and a Christian. Now I know he is neither of those but even you could see the hypocrisy in his statement.

I am going to guess Chavez wouldn't let Pat enslave and rip off his citizens and that is why he is speaking out publicly against him.

Mike's America said...

Interesting how quick some of your readers are Mark to excuse a former high government official and damn an out of the loop minister....

Oh well.. no surprise here!