Saturday, July 26, 2008

He Really Said That?

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools” ~ Romans 1:22 KJV

Something new has been added for this entry! Footnotes! Check ‘em out!

AlGore, the self-appointed Goracle of the second newest religion on the planet, AlGorianity, (1. which teaches a philosophy that posits man made Worldwide climate change, particularly unavoidable, unchangeable, gradual warming Global temperatures, is an immediate and imminent cataclysmic, life-ending danger to all life on this planet, has (again) made an amazingly astounding (and confounding) pronouncement. (2.


According to Ann Coulter‘s weekly internet column, “On ‘Meet the Press’ last weekend, (Al)Gore called on America to be carbon dioxide-free within 10 years“.

Really? Carbon Dioxide-free?

As I said, “Astounding“!

Now, I am aware that some skeptics consider anything Ann Coulter has to say to be unadulterated lies, but I’m fairly confident a quick Google search would confirm the validity of Ann’s claim that AlGore really did make that absolutely incredible statement, so I‘m not even going to do the research myself. I’ll leave that task up to the unbelievers.

I have scoured my brain thoroughly in search of some logical explanation as to why this Caliphate of Climatic Calamity, this Pope of Pomposity, would make such an asinine proclamation, and have only been able to come up with two possible explanations:

1. He thinks Americans are morons, or

2. AlGore himself is a moron.

What should we call worshippers of AlGore, anyway? Christians are named for their founder, Jesus Christ, so let’s just call AlGore’s disciples AlGorians“, shall we?

But I digress. Here, for the logically-challenged, hereafter to be referred to as “AlGorians”, (3. is a scientific fact, which incidentally, I learned in Mr. Clarence Zink‘s eighth grade Basic Science class: (4

Bi-pedal Carbon-based life form units (That’s human beings, to offer clarification for any AlGorians who happen to be reading this) and animals (all animals) breathe by inhaling into their bodies, air, which consists mostly of oxygen. By a remarkable chemical conversion process, that same oxygenated air is converted somewhere within the body, to air consisting of mostly carbon dioxide, which is then expelled from the body through the process of breathing out. (5. Here is just one web site that supports this claim, but more scientifically than I.

It reads, and I quote:

“When we humans breathe, we breathe through our lungs. The air we pull in when we inhale through our nose and our mouth moves into our bronchial tubes, then into our avaoli sacks, and from there into our blood stream. Once in the blood stream the oxygen travels through our bodies. At the same time we are breathing in the oxygen we are exhaling the carbon dioxide. The CO² leaves our bodies when we exhale“.

In layman’s terms, that means we expel Carbon Dioxide directly into the air during the basic, natural, normal process of breathing. Breathing would be virtually impossible if Carbon Dioxide were eliminated. And without breathing, life on this earth would be non-existent. Breathing is one way in which living entities are distinguished from non-living and/or non-thinking entities, such as mountains, rocks, most Hollywood celebrities, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and B. Hussein Obama.

Conversely, plant life on this planet (plants, defined for the benefit of AlGorians everywhere, as trees, flowers, grass, weeds, etc.) breathes air exactly opposite the way people and animals breathe. (6. They inhale carbon dioxide, and expel oxygen!

Well, I suppose eliminating all Carbon Dioxide on this planet would create an immediate, imminent, cataclysmic end to life on this planet after all.

But wouldn’t that be a self fulfilling prophecy, if by some supernatural power, AlGore was indeed actually able to accomplish the elimination of all Carbon Dioxide on the earth? Hmmmm. .. Maybe he’s on to something after all.

But seriously, folks. Can anything AlGore says really be taken seriously anymore?

Maybe AlGore has discovered some way of inhaling oxygen without expelling Carbon Dioxide. I wonder. Where would the air that isn’t expelled go? Would it be excreted through the pores of the skin by osmosis? Or would it simply build up within the body until the body burst, like an overfilled blimp or helium filled balloon? Perhaps both! Helium filled balloons eventually just lose helium, if they don’t burst first, don’t they?

I’m no scientist, but I’ve always assumed the helium slowly passes out through the pores of the rubber of the balloon, and that’s why they eventually sink to the ground and get smaller, but I could be mistaken.

Hmmm… come to think of it, His Holiness AlGore has been looking a little bloated lately.

But wait a minute. That wouldn’t work either. Whether we burst from too much retention of Carbon Dioxide in our bodies or we excrete the gas through the pores in our skin, Carbon Dioxide would still be released into the atmosphere eventually. Right?

What to do? What to do?

I just don’t see how we are going to be Carbon Dioxide-free in ten years. Or ever. Unless we all cease to exist, that is. Isn’t ceasing to exist the very condition the AlGorians are trying to avoid?

Somebody throw me a bone here.

Well, perhaps AlGore, the God of Global Warming, has transcended mortal human existence and has become omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and omni-everything else. Because that’s the only way he could ever accomplish the elimination of Carbon Dioxide without killing off all life on Planet Earth.

Which brings me back to my original summation:

He’s either a moron, or he believes everyone else are morons.

Wait! There’s another option to consider:

3. Perhaps he fancies himself the ultimate Svengali, who has accomplished the monumental task of mesmerizing all humans on this planet into believing even the most preposterous hypnotic suggestion. (7.

Actually, whether AlGore is a moron or not, anyone who believes the nonsense he spews is by default, a moron, in my humble opinion.

Unless, of course, he has his minions mesmerized. There. I’ve provided a ready-made excuse for you Liberals out there.

No doubt the AlGorians are already scrambling to offer plausible explanations for their Master’s idiotic statements. You know, “That’s not what he meant! You’re taking it out of context! Waaaaahhh!”

Actually, Ann quite effectively put everything he said into context, so that what he said could be better understood. I saw the interview, which, I mean to tell you, was a particularly excruciating experience, so my Conservative friends won't have to suffer through it themselves. (You can thank me later) He actually said "100% Carbon free in ten years", Which is even more impossible than merely Carbon Dioxide free. We all are, after all, carbon based life forms. I think Ann was actually giving him a break. Later on he used the term "Carbon Dioxide" to further clarify his stated, intended goal.

Seriously, after this ludicrous pronouncement, how can anyone, even the most illiterate, naïve, stupid, blind, AlGorian believe anything this self-appointed Messiah of the Masses says? (8. About anything?

What? Am I insinuating I am more intelligent than AlGore and his followers?

Yes.


1. The newest religion is "Obamarama-ding-dong".
2. How’s that for a long, rambling, much too wordy, grammatically incorrect sentence?
3. To distinguish them from members of their parent church, the church of the Lemming-mentality bleeding heart Liberal sob sisters.
4.Carlton Jr. High School, Derby, Kansas 1964-5 (now defunct)
5. Which, according to another religious philosophy called Darwinism, merely invented itself naturally, without intelligent design.
6. That’s grass and weeds you walk on, not smoke. I have to keep in mind that I’m explaining this to Liberals, also.
7. See Svengali - www.Google.com
8. Including GK-S, drlobojo, and Dan

40 comments:

Trader Rick said...

I wish I had footnotes...

Liam said...

Mark, I know you've never been one to let the truth get in the way of your rants against people to the left of you, but you really have done a remarkable job of setting yourself up for a fall here.

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools”

Indeed, and then you went on to do just that.

I did just what you suggested and googled to find the transcript of Meet The Press. You can find it here. At no point does Gore say that America should be CO2-free within ten years. The quote which seems to have made its way into Ann Coulter's article is his previously (much!) reported speech challenging America to "producing 100 percent of our electricity from renewable energy and truly clean, carbon-free sources within 10 years."

Words taken out of context? Yep.

So it seems your confidence in Ms Coulter is misplaced and along the way you have demonstrated yourself to be one of the sheeple blindly following where she leads you.

America really is a lost cause in the hands of such fools.

Jim O'Sullivan said...

This is what happens to "post-modern" thinkers like AlGore. As they lose thier faith in their received religion, they use nature itself to replace God. It is nature that is the object of their worship. Industrial society is itself an exercise in sacrilige, as it dirties their God, the earth itself. It's that same weird religion that the tyrants who took over the French Revolution tried to foist on the world. It's almost funny to watch. "Almost" because this unspoken philosophy is so dangerous.
BTW, Gores handlers will probably explain that he meant sources of fuel that produce no carbon dioxide. Not tht he knows the diffeence himself.

Mark said...

Liam, What Ann was probably referring to was this statement: "Gore challenged Americans to switch all of the nation's electricity production to wind, solar, and other carbon-free sources within 10 years..."

Which is even more ridiculous than how Ann interpreted it. To eliminate carbon based sources would be to eliminate life on this planet completely. As I pointed out, we are all carbon based units. We ARE carbon sources. Each and every one of us. When we breathe, we produce energy that is carbon based. Or do you not have body heat?

Ann was being altruistic in explaining AlGore's statements. She didn't want him to appear as foolish as he actually is.

4simpsons said...

Wow, footnotes and everything! I hope your teacher gives you an "A."

The people who interview Gore, including those in Congress, are either clueless or gutless. The conversation should go like this:

Interview/Congressman: Is it true that you own all those houses and vehicles and use many times more power than the average American?

Gore: Yes, but I buy carbon offset credits.

I/C: [Extended laughter] No, really, is it true about the houses and vehicles?

Gore: Yes, but I buy carbon offset credits.

I/C: You are a fraud and a hypocrite. Get out of here and stop wasting our time. Even IF your carbon offset credits meant something and even IF you didn't personally profit from them, you would still change your living habits dramatically if you cared a fraction as much about the environment as you claim to.

Timothy said...

Hi Mark,
Well done. The only reason Gore is so foolish is the weight of legitimacy his minions give him. Had he tried this stupidity 30 years ago, he never would have been elected to office by the fine people of Tennessee.

Jim said...

Your irrational fear and loathing of the Nobel prize winner would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

You try to make Vice President Gore seem ridiculous by pivoting to your own stupid diatribe. Gore does not want to eliminate carbon-based life forms. Only those with a cataclysmic lack of intelligence would honestly infer this. He is referring to carbon-based ENERGY sources.

This post and some following comments are astoundingly inane. And then Mark says, "To eliminate carbon based sources would be to eliminate life on this planet completely. As I pointed out, we are all carbon based units. We ARE carbon sources." Well, the only way this makes sense is if we are burning humans as a source of energy.

BTW, "Darwinism" isn't a religious philosophy. It is a term made up and used by some of the most ignorant people on the planet.

Henry said...

I'll take "Al Gore is a moron" for $400, Alex...

Jenn of the Jungle said...

Jim, Jim, Jim...Fear and loathing??? What the heck is it with you leftards that makes you think that because someone disagrees with or dislikes one of your messiahs that we fear them?

I don't fear Gore, I doubt Mark does either. The Gore's of this world in their overwhelming desire to be worshiped, do things that effect us all. It's not fear, it's concern for this country, the people who live here and the world.

The Goarcle's quest for fame comes at a price. Kids having nightmares, people/the MSM over reacting to simple weather phenomena. Thoughtless ideas like canvas bags for groceries. What do you think happens to all these bags when we tire of them?

There are so many things we can and are doing that are positive for the environment. We do not need Nazi like enviro-nuts like Gore capitalizing on ridiculous things like carbon credits. While using more power than half the state of Arkansas.

Great post Mark.

Henry said...

THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES -- NO NEED TO PUBLISH

Just a small clarification: Air is a mixture of gases made up of 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and 2% mixture of Argon, water vapor, CO2, and some other trace gases. You can see that air is mostly Nitrogen, not Oxygen.

On the flip side, when we respirate, the lungs only absorb about 25% of the available Oxygen, so an exhalation contains 78% Nitrogen, 16% oxygen, 4% carbon dioxide, and 2% the trace gases mentioned before.

I tell you this not to point out the error, but to help protect you from smug, intellectual-type "progressives" that will try to attack you for your criticism of The Goreacle™.

Mary said...

I think we should get our act together when it comes to utilizing renewable energy sources.

For entrepreneurs, it's a market just waiting to be tapped. Creating cheap, renewable energy would stimulate our economy and potentially alter our foreign policy. The ramifications of a Renewable Energy Revolution might be as significant as the Industrial Revolution.

Who knows?

What I do know is that Gore is full of it when it comes to this carbon stuff.

Last Sunday on Meet the Press, Gore made this outlandish claim:

I don't claim to be perfect, and all of us who care about this issue are, are trying to do our part, but I, I will say this. We buy green energy. The issue is carbon. The issue is carbon, and we have, essentially, a carbon-free home.

That's a lie.

Every time Al or Tipper exhale they emit carbon. My guess is Al emits ENORMOUS quantities of carbon through other bodily processes as well.

The human body is composed of carbon. Carbon is in all living things and previously living things, like wood.

Carbon is not the enemy, yet Gore has declared war on carbon.

Using Mark's analogy, I guess carbon would be Satan in AlGorianity.

As Mark points out, there is a carbon-oxygen cycle that is necessary for life.

That makes Gore's claim that his home is carbon-free sound insane. And this notion of purchasing carbon offsets is positively ridiculous.

It's Gore's exaggerations, outright lies, and "sky is falling" approach that thoroughly discredits him.

Mark said...

Jim and Liam and all you other AlGorians,

I find it an interesting dichotomy that AlGore is the one who screamed, "He played on our fears!" when he was engaged in his failed campaign against Bush in 2000.

Now he claims The world is in immediate and imminent danger because average mean temperatures might (and by "might" I mean maybe) rise by a couple of degrees in the next ten years. (actually, he has cleverly uncovered evidence that average mean temperatures have indeeed risen approximately .6 degrees in the last 60 years. That's really frightening, isn't it? Makes me want to run out and get a high powered air conditioner that runs on wind power immediately for fear my life is in danger) Really, how imminent is that? And, who's playing on whose fears now?

Every winter I find myself wishing for Global warming. It get's cold in the winter. I like it warm.

Even so, come, Global Warmiong!

This whole argument about Carbon and Carbon Dioxide is ridiculous anyway. Carbon Dioxide, which is given off by anything that has Carbon in it, is not only necessary to sustain life, but it is harmless.

Un-biased scientists (that's scientists that aren't being paid off by the Global Warming lobby)have long ago debunked the baseless theory that Carbon Dioxide causes the temperature to rise. What they have found, instead, is that rising temperatures cause Carbon Dioxide to rise, which is really more logical in the first place.

See, when Carbon is heated, it gives off carbon Dioxide.

You know that stuff that looks like steam that comes out of your Coca Cola bottle when you first open it? That's Carbon Dioxide. It makes a popping sound when you open it. That's why some people call it Pop. When you open a cold coke, the invisible Carbon Dioxide reacts to the warm air outside the bottle and becomes visible, and it looks something like steam. Does your Coca Cola get hot when you open it? Does the atmosphere around you get hot when you open it? When you drink Coca Cola do you get hot? If Carbon Dioxide was so dangerous, why would the Coca Cola company put it in their product? To eliminate their own customer base? That makes about as much sense as Global Warming to me.

Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of Carbon Dioxide knows it's not in the least dangerous, and can do nothing to make temperatures rise.

Start using that pea sized piece of concrete that you call a brain and think about things logically for once instead of hanging breathlessly on every word that dribbles from the mouth of a failed politician who is playing on your Global Warming fears to convince you that you need to pay higher taxes to stop it.

Mark said...

Jim, I rejected your last comment because you insulted one of my other commenters and that's against the rules, and because it's my blog and I can reject it if I want to.

And you say Darwinism isn't a religious philosophy. Well, I say it is. It takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in God, so that makes it a religion in my book. You are free to disagree but you'll still be wrong.

Mark said...

You know, I've been thinking. I might buy the Global Warming theory if AlGore wasn't trying to convince us that Carbon Dioxide was the cause.

If he had just come up with a more logical explanation (or simply any logical explanation) for warming temperatures I might have bought the theory.

It's when he continually uses that convoluted argument that he loses credibility to me.

Jim said...

It takes no faith whatsoever to understand the facts of evolution. Evolution is fact.

Darwinism is a made up term to describe something that doesn't exist.

I am a devout Christian. I'm also an intelligent person who is also educated. I know what evolution is and means to the very basis of biological science. It's not a philosophy; it's a scientific fact just as gravity is a scientific fact.

My devout Christian faith also tells me that the Bible is not contradicted by the fact of evolution.

Well, gee sorry Mark, but it's hard not to insult some of the people who post here. I guess the owner sets the rules, but he also sets the tone. And the insults written by deniers is hard not to respond to in kind.

And JHC, the incredible stuff that is being written here is just so, so ... I can't find a word that is not insulting.

To infer that Gore is talking about eliminating "carbon" is simply nonsense. Just plain nonsense. Gore has not declared "carbon" the "enemy." It's carbon-based energy which emits "carbon dioxide" when burned.

Yes, we exhale carbon dioxide. Most third graders know that. They also know that plants use that carbon dioxide and return oxygen. And it's known that cow farts also produce CO2.

The problem is the balance of carbon dioxide production and carbon dioxide consumption (by plants). As industrialization consumes forests and burns more and more carbon-based energy sources, the CO2 levels get out of balance.

I don't know why I'm explaining this to you, it's so simple.

Mark said, "See, when Carbon is heated, it gives off carbon Dioxide." You're kidding right? Are you saying that as the earth's temperature is (as you say, naturally) rising, it's causing coal and oil (and carbon-based life forms) to give off CO2 as they warm up a degree or two? Cause that's what it sounds like you're saying.

I'm astounded.

You Coca Cola science is one of the most amazing theories I've ever heard. You should publish it.

Why don't you buy the Gore thing because he's not blaming Global warming on CO2, but on the imbalance of CO2. It's a pretty simple concept.

Al-Ozarka said...

AlGore's War on Weather...

No fearmongering from the left, is there.

We have real evil men both threatening us and carrying out those threats with bloody results and the fools call our efforts to defeat those men nothing but fear-mongering while AlGore and his zombies want us to fear a concoction of lies like global-warmiong.

Goat said...

I see someone already made the point nitrogen is our primary gas. Higher CO2 levels are actually good for life on earth as it makes healtyier flora and thus healtier fauna while reducing the water needs of the flora. Penn and Teller exposed the brain dead environuts back in 2003 by getting them to sign a petition banning dihydrogen monoxide,H2O. I will point you to a site run by actual scientists and not a politician with a money making socialist agenda based on debunked myths.
http://icecap.us/index.php
They debunk every global warming myth there is and the people that buy into it are just sheeple that want to feel good about something like polar bears and penguins. I highly recommend Icecap for AGW sceptics as a source for plenty of ammo to be aimed at the Goreistas.

Mark said...

Yes, thanks for the correction, Henry and Goat. As you can easily tell, I'm not a scientist, but that doesn't change the fact that AlGore is deluding the AlGorians with smoke and mirrors, and they are lapping it up like gravy.

Abouna said...

And thus it goes on, the never ending war of wits between homo-sapiens (Conservatives) and homo-ignoramuses(liberals. Unfortunately, it is the latter that seem to be winning.

Mary said...

Jim,

You say: To infer that Gore is talking about eliminating "carbon" is simply nonsense. Just plain nonsense. Gore has not declared "carbon" the "enemy." It's carbon-based energy which emits "carbon dioxide" when burned.

Clearly, you're referring to what I posted.

I think it's interesting that you're flipping out over GORE'S own choice of words.

Why did he tell Tom Brokaw, "The issue is carbon. The issue is carbon, and we have, essentially, a carbon-free home"?

It's a problem that GORE plays fast and loose with terms.

Words have meaning. If he means that he has a home free of "carbon-based energy which emits 'carbon dioxide' when burned," then he should say so.

HE didn't.

You're so frustrated that you resort to hurling insults at commenters.

Perhaps, you should direct your insults at GORE for making such an inane statement as declaring his home to be carbon-free.

Al-Ozarka said...

"Unfortunately, it is the latter that seem to be winning."

It's much easier to give in, Abouna, than to fight-on.

It's a matter of the American Character. Where America's Character goes...so goes America.

Trader Rick said...

Anyone goofy enough to think there is not a conflict between Christianity and Evolution must not understand either of them. Evolution is sheer chaos bringing about perfect design--and that totally makes no sense to a rational man.

ELAshley said...

Adherents to the teachings of Al Gore... "Goracle's"? Cute, but not good enough. I submit,
"Allegories"

"Homo-Ignoramus" Good one, Abouna... from the intro to Immanuel Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision:

"In an immense universe a little globe revolves around a star; it is the third in a row-- Mercury, Venus, Earth --of the planetary family. It is of a solid core covered over most of its surface with liquid, and it has a gaseous envelope. Living creatures fill the liquid; other living creatures fly in the gas; and still others creep and walk upon the ground on the bottom of the gaseous ocean. Man, a being of erect stature, thinks himself the prince of creation. He felt like this long before he, by his own efforts, came to know how to fly on wings of metal around the globe. He felt godlike long before he could talk to his fellow-man on the other side of the globe. Today he can see the microcosm in a drop and the elements in the stars. He knows the laws governing the living cell with its chromosomes, and the laws governing the macrocosm of the sun, moon, planets, and stars. He assumes that gravitation keeps the planetary system together, man and beast on their planet, the sea within its borders. For millions and millions of years, he maintains, the planets have rolled along on the same paths, and their moons around them, and man in these eons has arisen from a one-cell infusorium all the long way up the ladder to his status of Homo sapiens.

"Is man's knowledge now nearly complete? Are only a few more steps necessary to conquer the universe: to extract the energy of the atom-- since these pages were written this has already been done --to cure cancer, to control genetics, to communicate with other planets and learn if they have living creatures, too?

"Here begins Homo ignoramus. He does not know what life is or how it came to be and whether it originated from inorganic matter. He does not know whether other planets of this sun or of other suns have life on them, and if they have, whether the forms of life there are like those around us, ourselves included. He does not know how this solar system came into being, although he has built up a few hypotheses about it. He knows only that the solar system was constructed billions of years ago. He does not know what this mysterious force of gravitation is that holds him and his fellow man on the other side of the planet with their feet on the ground, although he regards the phenomenon itself as "the law of laws."

"Although man knows that he has lived on this planet for millions of years, he finds a recorded history of only a few thousand years. And even these few thousand years are not sufficiently known."



I love that... "Here begins Homo ignoramus." Another way of saying, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."

In regard to those who fall for Gores ignorant prattle... his "Allegories"... they are of a kind; the kind that never learn.

I like Proverbs 26:11... "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."

Thanks Henry for pointing out the gaff.

Good post Mark.

Gayle said...

I put myself through sheer hell watching the video "Al Gore Meet The Press Part 4 July 20 2008" on You Tube. I should have beat myself over the head with a baseball bat instead! It would have been less painful. :(

I think you're right, Mark. Coulter must have been referring to his comment about challenging Americans to "switch all of the nation's electricity production to wind, solar, and other carbon-free sources within 10 years..

I guess we are all supposed to drop dead for him to be happy. Actually, that may be the answer. The world population is now over 6 billion. We are all running around the planet generating 98.6 degree temperatures. If there is global warming maybe it's us and not the car and cow emissions. So... if we all drop dead, problem solved! ;)

mom2 said...

I'm also an intelligent person who is also educated. I know what evolution is and means to the very basis of biological science. It's not a philosophy; it's a scientific fact just as gravity is a scientific fact.>>

Well, congratulations!. but phooey.

Lone Ranger said...

Then why do they call it the "theory of evolution?"

Trader Rick said...

If evolution is fact, explain woodpeckers and Dolphin Sonar, Also Educated Mom! And where is the missing link ? Maybe it's a throwback... Al Gore?

blamin said...

While reading your post, Mark, I laughed until I cried. Then I wept.

Jimmy – “Evolution is fact It's not a philosophy; it's a scientific fact just as gravity is a scientific fact.”

Wow! Jimmy has single-handely put to rest that which all scientist before him have failed to do. He’s proven evolution! He’s proclaimed evolution as fact, therefore it must be.

But hey, he has precedent in his “scientific method”; and he’s damn proud of it don’t ya know!

mom2 said...

trader rick, I should have noted that I was just pasting Jim's quote. My idea is phooey to what he said. I'm on your side.

Erudite Redneck said...

Not sure I've ever seen more wasted energy than on this post and thread.

!!! There's the answer! Harness hot air and manure from the right wing of the blogosphere! We'd all be drinkin' Free Bubble-Up sand eatin' that Rainbow Stew by the end of the year.

Mark said...

There he goes again! When it becomes clear he can't refute perfectly flawless logic, he resorts to childish ad hominen attacks.

Thanks for proving my point, ER. Liberals don't think for themselves, and in the face of irrefutable evidence, attack the messenger instead of the message.

Jim said...

Don't know why I bother, but what the heck.

Mark, I reread my last post, and I can't find one ad hominem phrase in the whole thing. One of us must be confused by the meaning of the latin.

Mary, sorry but there is simply nowhere to go with you if you think that Gore is advocating the elimination of carbon.

Rick, think what you will about evolution but I believe that evolution is God's continuing method of creation. You may think it's chaos, but I think it's beautiful logic.

lone ranger, perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the meaning of the word "theory." Contrary to what you may think, "theory" does not mean "guess". Did you not take science in school? In science "theory" means:

A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

Blamin, scientists have not failed to prove evolution. They have observed it over and over again. See above where it says, "widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena."

And again Mark, despite your protestations, I have attacked no one despite being attacked. I have repeatedly shown that I can think for myself. The fact that I can cite history, science, and the educated to support what I believe is what makes me different from you. It's not a liberal thang.

Marshall Art said...

I thought I had posted a comment here. I must have erred in the publishing of it. No matter. My point was simple: Gore is a moron.

Mark said...

JIm, I don't know about your God, but my God doesn't have to make several attempts at creation before He gets it right. Why take millions of years to create through trial and error and many stages, a man when He has the ability to create man right the first time?

Mary said...

Explain Gore's quote about carbon on Meet the Press, Jim.

Did HE fail to communicate his message?

I don't claim to be perfect, and all of us who care about this issue are, are trying to do our part, but I, I will say this. We buy green energy. The issue is carbon. The issue is carbon, and we have, essentially, a carbon-free home.

--Al Gore


Please explain, Jim. Don't run away from the specifics of the question.

Mark said...

JIm, you have pronounced evolution to be scientific fact, but that isn't what evolution scientists say. Here is what some of evolution's greatest scholars say:

Professor Louis T. More, University of Cincinnati, said, "The more one studies the paleontological record, the more certain one becomes that evolution is based on faith alone."

D.M.S. Watson who held the position of the Chair of Evolution at the University of London for more than twenty years, made the observation that the theory of evolution itself is universally accepted, "not because it has been observed to occur or can be proved by logical coherent evidence to be true, but because the only alternative, special creation, is clearly incredible."

Sir Arthur Keith(1866-1955), a British anatomist and anthropologist who wrote 20 books in defense of evolution, said evolution is "unproved and unprovable". He also said, "We believe it because the only alternative is special creation, which is unthinkable."

Professor David Allbrook, Professor of Anatomy at the University of Western Australia, says that evolution is "a time-honored scientific tenet of faith."

Paul LeMoine, French evolutionist: "Evolution is a fairy tale for grownups."

Sir Julian Huxley, the grand nephew of Thomas Huxley, was in his day--probably the worlds most prestigious evolutionists, was being interviewed on a National Public Television station. He was asked, "Why do you suppose that so many scientists accepted evolution so quickly?"

This is what he replied: "I suppose the reason we leaped at The Origin Of the Species (Darwin's book)was because the idea of a God interfered with our sexual mores."

Thomas Huxley was Darwin's spokesman. It was he that engaged in debates on Darwin's behalf.

"It is clear," said Huxley, "that the doctrine of evolution is directly antagonistic to that of creation. Evolution, if consistently accepted, makes it impossible to believe in the Bible."

So there you have it, Jim. You must be more learned and better educated than the finest minds in the field. I wonder why you aren't internationally famous since you seem to have all the answers. Answers that even the evolutionists themselves don't claim to have.

Mark said...

Jim, you said, "You Coca Cola science is one of the most amazing theories I've ever heard. You should publish it."

It isn't a theory. It's fact. Ask any scientist. They will tell you the gas in any carbonated beverage (even beer!) is CO2.

Maybe you weren't yet born when Coke was opened with a bottle opener also known as a church key. When you pried the top off, it would make a popping sound from the release of the CO2. You could make it louder if you popped the top off fast. Nowadays it just makes a fizzing sound when you unscrew the top. That sound is Carbon Dioxide escaping from the bottle.

You see, Coca Cola is made with carbonated water. Look on the label of any carbonated beverage. That means it has CO2 in the water they use to make Coca Cola. That's what the term "carbonated" comes from. "Carbon" is the root word. Not a theory. Fact. Much more a fact than evolution.

And I did publish it. Right here. On my blog.

Jim said...

Mark, just because I disagree with you on most things doesn't mean I'm a complete idiot.

Why in the HELL are you explaining carbonation to me. I'm nearly 60 years old. I know what a church key is. I know why they call it pop. I know what carbonated water is.

Your attempt to deny global warming on the basis of opening a bottle of Coca Cola is just too astounding for words.

Mark said...

"Why in the HELL are you explaining carbonation to me."

Because you don't seem to be getting it. You said, "You Coca Cola science is one of the most amazing theories I've ever heard. You should publish it." And I explained it further because you responded as if you didn't understand. And you still haven't explained why Coca Cola doesn't make the planet warmer.

And by the way, questions usually end with a question mark.

Jim said...

"And by the way, questions usually end with a question mark."

Are you f**king kidding me?

Mark said, "Start using that pea sized piece of concrete that you call a brain..."

And then you reject my comment because I supposedly insulted one of your commenters and that's against the rules?

Once again you prove yourself a hypocrite.