Sunday, June 13, 2010

Not Natural. Not Normal.

"Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

In a thread at Marshall Art's blog, a post regarding the endangered "Don't ask, don't tell" policy in America's military, the comments drifted to the usual discussion over whether homosexuality and the oxy-moronic "gay" marriage is normal.

Before I get into my usual rant, I want to state my personal view on both gays in the military and gay marriage:

Don't ask, don't tell:

If, somehow, some homosexual in the military has managed to conceal his deviancy up until now, I have no objection to him/her continuing to serve. As long as none of his/her fellow soldiers know, keep it that way or leave. If, however, he/she has been outed, either by self-outing or by discovery of his peers, he/she should be discharged.

When a homosexual is outed, the other soldiers become self conscious, and will likely imagine they are being leered at, or they may possibly mistake some innocent friendliness as being an unwanted attempt at seduction. It would be an enormous distraction, and effect the cohesiveness of the unit. And that, in time of war, could cost lives.

Gay Marriage:

Personally, I don't care if two homosexuals want to get married to each other.

But don't expect me to give them wedding gifts, and they'd better not expect congratulations from me. I think homosexuality is disgusting. I don't want to know about their perversion.

Other than that, they can swish their tail feathers anywhere they want. As long as they leave me out of it, I really don't care.

Now. On to my rant:

A few years ago, an article was published in the New York Slimes, which reported scientists had genetically altered a female fruit fly by injecting it with a male gene. It naturally did what male fruit flies do. It made sexual advances on another female fruit fly.

From this, the scientists drew the conclusion that homosexuality was genetic.

The writer of the article did not mention if they had tried the same experiment with male fruit flies. The article also did not mention whether they had tried the same experiment with multiple fruit flies, or with other animals.

I suppose the New York Slimes assumed we would all just believe them, because they have been so trustworthy in the past. (sarcasm)

I can't link to it, because to do so, I would have to subscribe to the New York Slimes online, and I won't waste good money on that treasonous, lying, piece of filth.

But the research was fatally flawed. Allow me to explain why.

In the first place, they started out all wrong. Instead of attempting to find a reason why the hypothesis isn't true, which is the scientifically accepted method of testing a hypothesis, they set out to prove genetic homosexuality is true. When you do this, you are starting out prepared to dismiss any evidence that conflicts with your initial hypothesis, other than which is absolutely undeniable.

Next, frankly, the conclusion reached by these scientists simply doesn't make sense.

They said homosexuality must be genetic because fruit flies injected with the opposite sex gene responded as if they were homosexual.

But, remember. They injected the gene into the fly.

The fly's genetic make-up had to be altered for it to behave in a manner opposite of it's true nature.

The gene was not already present.

It is never present in nature.

The fruit fly does only what fruit flies do. They are born, they eat, they mate. And then, they die. That's all.

Fruit flies do not and cannot choose their sexual orientation. At least, not without outside influences.

Needless to say, fruit flies are not human.

Human beings are the only creatures on this earth who have the capacity of abstract reasoning. They are also the only creatures on earth who choose their sexual preferences.

Human beings are the only creatures who can choose to defy nature.

And, homosexual human beings defy nature.

They choose to be deviant. They choose to defy nature. They choose to deny their own sexuality.

Why?

The reasons are legion.

I believe it starts with a lack of self esteem.

In the last several years, homosexuality has become fashionable. Because of the efforts of homosexual activists, many people who otherwise wouldn't have considered being homosexual have "joined the movement", so to speak. Joining this club satisfies the need to belong.

I suspect many of the members of this particular club are not really homosexual at all, but they want to belong to some group so badly, they assume the stereotypical mannerisms that all people, straight or gay, easily recognize. Probably all of them, if they continue to affect the mannerisms of what they consider to be "gay", eventually engage in some sort of homosexual activity. Once they go that far, their self esteem reaches an all time low, and the homosexual lifestyle claims another victim.

I personally know a homosexual young man who tries so very hard to convince everyone around him that he is gay, I have become convinced he is not really gay at all.

He simply tries too hard.

If it were natural and normal to be homosexual, why would one try so hard to act that way?

If it's natural and normal, just be homosexual. Be yourself. Stop trying to prove your "gayness" to everyone else. Normal people only find that behavior disgusting, and don't want to know.

Even with the strong pull of inclusiveness mentioned above, I believe very few people enter the homosexual lifestyle in this manner.

For the most part, those who eventually choose an aberrant lifestyle do so because of some childhood trauma or influence, from extreme circumstances such as rape and molestation, to merely a lack of a strong role model in the child's home.

Homosexual enablers will often say something like, "Homosexuals are disdained and hated and treated badly. Why would they choose to be discriminated against if it's so much easier to be heterosexual?"

Well, the answer to that question is this: There are people who are affected with some sort of medical or neurological disorder. They crave attention.

Read up on Munchhausen's syndrome.

As I mentioned, in spite of what certain people, such as Dan T. , Geoffrey, and scores of others, will say, homosexuality never occurs in nature. It requires some alteration by an outside force, such as the injection of an unnatural gene, as we've seen, or a traumatic influence (or semi-traumatic. It's a relative term) from some sort of outside entity.

I've said this before. If you want to be gay, go ahead. Whatever turns you on. I don't really care. I won't hate you for that. I might dislike you for other reasons, but not your choice of sexual preferences.

But, don't flaunt your perversion in front of me, please. And, stop trying to convince others that it wasn't a choice, and that you were born that way.

You weren't, and subconsciously at least, you know it.

The only thing you are doing when you insist it's natural is encouraging more confused young people to deny the fact that they are suffering from childhood traumas or outside influences instead of dealing with them and expunging those particular deviations.

And, if you are normal and pretend you believe they are, too, despite what common sense tells you, keep it to yourself. You aren't convincing anyone.

Cross posted at American Descent.

25 comments:

Jim said...

I suspect many of the members of this particular club are not really homosexual at all, but they want to belong to some group so badly, they assume the stereotypical mannerisms that all people, straight or gay, easily recognize. Probably all of them, if they continue to affect the mannerisms of what they consider to be "gay", eventually engage in some sort of homosexual activity. Once they go that far, their self esteem reaches an all time low, and the homosexual lifestyle claims another victim.

Yep! You got it! You figured it out. You should be on Beck's show.

Z said...

That's all I hear from soldiers, too, they just don't WANT to even FEEL they're being checked out in the showers, etc...it's a bad situation.
And then we have women on submarines...the MOST crazy thing EVER, according to sailors I've talked to about this. close quarters for months, 20 yr old kids...how stupid can our government BE? Are we REALLY THIS unnatural that boys/girls shouldn't have urges?

Mark said...

Apparently, Jim and Dan subscribe to my blogs. They are always the first to jump in and disagree.

I don't know whether to be flattered or insulted.

Mark said...

Hey Jim...

I was seriously considering leaving that part out of my entry. I was thinking it might be a little over the top, but since you have objected so strenuously, I must be right after all. Thanks for the vote of affirmation.

Trader Rick said...

I don't care about anything regarding the guy next to me in the bunker, except is he alert and sober, and can he do his job and will he have my back... ( if he has any annoying habits, his fellow soldiers will take care of that.)

Many queers wish they were straight, they don't want to be deviants but they can't help it--it's just the way it is. I would rather be taller, too. I wish Jim had just an ounce of common sense, too. Oh, well. So it goes.

feetxxxl said...

you forgot to mention that homosexuals have never been found wanting in aNY SECTOR OF SOCIETY COMPARED TO HETEROSEXUALS. they are not a father, friend , counselor teacher, engineer, lawyer, soldier, pastor,etc.

homosexuals bond in the same way as heterosexuals, out of mutual love, attraction, affection, devotion, trust,and respect for a shared committed life together.


the legal gay marriages of massachussets have not resulted in the 50% divorce rate as those heterosexual marriages that took place as the same time.

feetxxxl said...

reedit

you forgot to mention that homosexuals have never been found wanting in aNY SECTOR OF SOCIETY COMPARED TO HETEROSEXUALS. they are not LESS a father, friend , counselor teacher, engineer, lawyer, soldier, pastor, NEIGHBOR, BROTHER,etc.

Mark said...

Rick, you need to visit Marshall Art's blog and read the comments. It's great fun watching the Liberals squirm!

feetxxxl said...

it must be a real thrill watching homosexuals( those attracted to the same sex, from their first sexual memory their entire lives) squirm about wanting to have a life that is without the last 600 years(king henry head of church/state made homosexual sex punishable by hanging) of being abandoned by family and friends, rejected by society including the church, and subject to possible assault, incarceration, and even murder and execution. you must get some real chuckles about the civil rights era as well. and the bullying in secondary school must have made you euphoric.

Randy said...

Pro/con on the "born that way" / genetic issue. Not directed at you, but at those would would argue for genetics...

If there's a homosexual gene, it can be tested. Wouldn't prospective parents want to test their baby and abort homosexuals?

If it's genetic, that still doesn't make it right. My father was an alcoholic. All the studies I've seen say that I'm predisposed to become an alcoholic. Doesn't give me the right to start drinking heavily, taking money from my mortgage, etc. I can choose (like you said).

feetxxxl said...

being something can becaused a number biogenetic causes besides genes.

here again beening attracted to the same sex is just that ........being attracted to the same sex..............everything else is the same.........which is evident in that no homosexuals have been found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals.

Mark said...

Feet..., "it must be a real thrill watching homosexuals( those attracted to the same sex, from their first sexual memory their entire lives) squirm about wanting to have a life that is without the last 600 years(king henry head of church/state made homosexual sex punishable by hanging) of being abandoned by family and friends, rejected by society including the church, and subject to possible assault, incarceration, and even murder and execution."

If you had read the entire post you would have noted that I covered that argument. Yes, it is possible that some people will deliberately make themselves suffer to get attention. Read the link to Munchhausen syndrome I provided.

I was married to a woman who suffers from that disorder. I know what I'm talking about. You obviously don't.

feetxxxl said...

so that means that they chose to be gay. and when was it in your life that having the choice to be either gay or straight you chose to be straight?

so you are saying that these people were so in need of attention that led double lives because being outed meant you lost everything, job, family, friends, church, etc, in addition to being subjected to over the top bullying, possible assault , even and murder and execution. and you actually know someone who is doing this because they want attention........let see attention from the bullies, the rejectors, the incarcerators.

and you've met someone like this? please im all ears tell me more. ive never met anyone like this.





and i guess you are speaking for the 320 million worldwide and for the 12 million in the usa. do you personnally know anyone who is gay, enough to walk in their shoes,( carry their burdens, if you are a believer.) so just how far have you ventured from your armchair to come with this incredible idea?

your depth of knowing what it is to be gay, comes from what experience?


ill bet if you are white that there is no limit on your knowing what it is to be black.


and so all these totally neurotic people somehow are not found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals, does that mean that all heterosexuals are equally neurotic in other ways.

and bottom line: this solely is about those attracted to the same sex, rather than the opposite sex.........everything else being equal( not found lacking in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals)

who's neurotic now?

feetxxxl said...

for believers:

The Law and the Promise
15Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed,"[g] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.

21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

Sons of God
26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, HOMOSEXUAL NOR HETEROSEXUAL for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise

Mark said...

Feet...

Sorry, but you're going to have to do better than that. Galatians 3 does not use the words Homosexual or heterosexual. You inserted those words there. Or, perhaps the pro-homo web site you got it from inserted it. Either way, the Bible doesn't say that. Not even close.

If you are going to use the Bible, which you obviously don't know, use passages that actually say something about homosexuality, like Leviticus 18:22 ~ "Thou shalt not lay with mankind as with womankind. It is an abomination."

I know all the Biblical arguments on homosexuality. I just chose not to use them in this post. This is a secular blog. I have a "religious" blog, but I don't post much on it.

Using verses or passages from the Bible to enumerate the prohibitions against homosexual behavior would take too much blog space, and obviously, this post is long enough. No one reads it in it's entirety already.

Mark said...

Oh, and BTW, Feet...,

"so that means that they chose to be gay. and when was it in your life that having the choice to be either gay or straight you chose to be straight?"

Yes they chose to be gay. I thought I made that point clear.

I never had the choice. I was born heterosexual, as were you, and all your homo lovers. I thought I made that clear, also.

You really are an intellectual lightweight, aren't you?

feetxxxl said...

of course i inserted the words and i added that homosexuals have never been found wanting in any sector of society compared to heterosexuals..........would that not be grounds for equality.

"Thou shalt not lay with mankind as with womankind. It is an abomination."


not all prohibitions of the old covenant were of themselves sins.

under the old covenant the isrealites were also instructed to take slaves for life to pass onto their children as inheritance. surely slavery is a moral issue in that it is about basic human rights.

num15:32 While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." 36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.

under the new covenant gathering firewood is not a sin neither is gathering it on the sabbath.

Mark said...

That is a whole different issue. Was the man who was gathering firewood heterosexual or homosexual?

That's apples to oranges, Feet. Stick to the subject or don't play.

feetxxxl said...

what is it about "not all prohibitions of the old covenant were of themselves sins" you dont get?


so this really is only an arm chair discussion on your part.

you have no foundation on any of what you are saying?

feetxxxl said...

"That is a whole different issue. Was the man who was gathering firewood heterosexual or homosexual?"

sorry not interested in dumbing down?


" like Leviticus 18:22 ~ "Thou shalt not lay with mankind as with womankind. It is an abomination."

you are using the shadows of the light(the absence of the light) to determine the essence of the light.
i prefer to give witness to the light directly.

Hebrews 10:1
[ Christ's Sacrifice Once for All ] The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves.

john1: 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the LIGHT of men. 5The LIGHT shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood[a] it.

6There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that LIGHT, so that through him all men might believe. 8He himself was not the LIGHT; he came only as a witness to the LIGHT. 9The true LIGHT that gives LIGHT to every man was coming into the world.[b]

Mark said...

OK. So you can quote scripture. What scriptures tell us that Homosexuality is natural and normal?

'Cause...you know...that's my point.

Mark said...

Actually, the foundation of my point is in my post. I showed how the so-called research into genetics proved Homosexuality is not genetic.

What is your foundation to prove the opposite? I don't see it.

feetxxxl said...

why would you chose to allow your theology to be determined by science, which wavers back and forth, todays science is tomorrow's refutation, when scripture calls us to make a 1john1(up close and personnal)a witness of the light, the same as john did when he determined that christ was the son of god( rather than just someone who had an anointing to heal and give teachings of the truth" that which we have heard, which we have have looked at, which we have seen with our eyes and our hands have touched, this we proclaim is the word of life".

this is a witness of walking in the light(a fellowship of sharing the oneness of christ's spirit.)

or is it you dont think that as a believer that the spirit of christ LIVES in you. that the sharing of oneness of his spirit is merely a theory but is without reality. that witness of the fruit of the holy spirit............love, joy, peace, kindness,goodness,faithfulness, self-control,patience and gentleness means nothing in that the fruit of the holy spirit is the same as that of powers and principalities(the things christ told us to battle against).gal5

romans1:20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

feetxxxl said...

romans7: 4So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. 5For when we were controlled by the sinful nature,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. 6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that WE SERVE IN A NEW OF THE SPIRIT, AND NOT OF THE OLD WAY OF THE WRITTEN CODE.


the new way is living the 3 three commandments of love. love god, self, neighbor and one another as i have loved you.(thru grace love as god loved who walked this earth....godlove)

1john4:20 you cannot love god unless you are loving your brother also.

1cor13 anything without love is nothing and gains nothing.

Anonymous said...

Its to bad blogger has no standards, this blog and every post Mark speaks should be striken from the earth as making people stupider. How people like him have a right to vote is an abominaiton.