tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post3924276045299289298..comments2024-03-25T04:46:46.000-04:00Comments on Casting Pearls Before Swine: The Coming Race WarMarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-27888434733524254572012-05-01T21:12:53.777-04:002012-05-01T21:12:53.777-04:00Did either of us say Zimmerman was a racist?Did either of us say Zimmerman was a racist?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-80313915269928219042012-05-01T10:54:24.525-04:002012-05-01T10:54:24.525-04:00Jim and Parkie, I guess the black witnesses to the...Jim and Parkie, I guess the black witnesses to the incident are <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/26/the-george-zimmerman-narrative-just-got-even-tougher-to-maintain/" rel="nofollow">racists</a>, too, eh?Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-53758294639722997892012-04-27T18:58:26.886-04:002012-04-27T18:58:26.886-04:00This is exactly what the Black Panthers had in min...<i>This is exactly what the Black Panthers had in mind going down there!!!</i><br /><br />All five of them.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-62011828175470556352012-04-27T18:57:12.737-04:002012-04-27T18:57:12.737-04:00Do you remember OJ?
What did Obama have to say ab...<i>Do you remember OJ?</i><br /><br />What did Obama have to say about OJ?<br /><br /><i>No. "Hard up" was your statement when you used "almost exactly".</i><br /><br />I have no problem with the term almost exactly. Most people who are not mathematicians would accept that <br /><br />3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848<br /><br />is almost exactly<br /> 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628608998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481<br /><br /><i>She's very bright.</i><br /><br />I'm sure.<br /><br /><i>I've explained this repeatedly.</i><br /><br />No, you have asserted but you have failed to explain.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-20636233514720541302012-04-27T18:45:28.800-04:002012-04-27T18:45:28.800-04:00Hey, someone offered the comparison and I looked a...<i>Hey, someone offered the comparison and I looked at the pictures.</i><br /><br />Another 135 words wasted on an inane point.<br /><br /><i>Are you saying Martin being dead is what makes Barry thinks he looks like he could be Barry's son if he had one?</i><br /><br />Who is Barry?<br /><br />No, I'm saying that the president made a reference to Martin because Martin was, you know, dead.<br /><br /><i>Barry's expression of sympathy to only one side of this equation suggests the other side is not worthy of consideration.</i><br /><br />Who is Barry?<br /><br />Suggests to you, perhaps. To most people it suggests that the dead person's family is worthy of empathy regardless of how it happened.<br /><br /><i>but still suggests something about which he hasn't facts enough to suggest.</i><br /><br />But he didn't suggest anything except that any parent would want to know exactly what happened when their child was killed.<br /><br /><i>many people don't think deeply enough but instead react to the superficial.</i><br /><br />Yes, Google "Obama haters".<br /><br /><i>He took a side by virtue of the specific words he used, whether he intended to or not. </i><br /><br />How can one "take" a side unintentionally? Regardless, his words were neutral.<br /><br /><i>being put in a situation where he felt the need to shoot a kid has a great negative impact on him.</i><br /><br />I'm sure he did, and I feel sorry for him about the whole thing. I think he put himself in that situation though, which is not to detract from any sympathy he deserves.<br /><br />That said, Zimmerman's parents had nothing to do with the case. Martin's did. The whole incident came to light because the parents wanted a full investigation. Obama said that it was natural that any parent would want to find out everything about what happened.<br /><br /><i>That kinda makes you a thoughtless prick</i>.<br /><br /><i>Yeah. You ARE a thoughtless prick.</i><br /><br />Clearly.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-90619422450769230302012-04-27T17:24:59.175-04:002012-04-27T17:24:59.175-04:00AOW, thanks for the link to the attorney's int...AOW, thanks for the link to the attorney's interview! Gives a great deal of information that we aren't being told. It confirms even more how I feel. I like the part where the attorney tells us what happened in the rest of the 9-1-1 call, that they ASKED him for an address. Z wasn't stalking anyone. He was getting the information that was requested from him.<br /><br />Also like that it was mentioned that there are other people who won't come forward publicly out of fear. This is exactly what the Black Panthers had in mind going down there!!!Krystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256521369614598137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-2944703591001802672012-04-27T12:21:15.787-04:002012-04-27T12:21:15.787-04:00"Who the HELL is Barry?"
Yet.. another ..."Who the HELL is Barry?"<br /><br />Yet.. another question Marshall cant answer.Parklifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-86186921043249195362012-04-27T02:54:05.823-04:002012-04-27T02:54:05.823-04:00"And I believe that you are among the very fe...<i>"And I believe that you are among the very few people, even among Obama-haters, that think his remarks have any particular, much less meaningful, impact on people's perceptions on this issue, especially any of those who would be involved in adjudicating the case."</i><br /><br />Do you remember OJ?<br /><br /><i>"You are really getting hard up here, aren't you?"</i><br /><br />No. "Hard up" was your statement when you used "almost exactly". <br /><br /><i>"Have you ever listened to Palin speak?"</i><br /><br />Quite a bit. She's very bright. She's got more brains than Barry Obrother. You don't have the smarts to see it.<br /><br /><i>"Where in this is he taking a side?"</i><br /><br />I've explained this repeatedly. Try to pay attention.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-44025275457970343362012-04-27T02:48:47.855-04:002012-04-27T02:48:47.855-04:00"You really are doing that? You are actually ...<i>"You really are doing that? You are actually going so far as to comparing pictures to see if you can somehow justify your crazy notion that Obama more closely resembles Zimmerman than Martin? And that's not stupid? It will never prove that Zimmerman was more dead than Martin."</i><br /><br />Hey, someone offered the comparison and I looked at the pictures. Why is that so hard to believe? In doing so, I found that he does look more like Obama than Martin does. They aren't twins, but nothing about Martin's features suggest that he could literally be confused as a relation of Barry's. Between the two, I happen to think that Zimmerman more closely resembles Barry Obumble. Too bad for Zimmerman. He might be mistaken for an idiot. <br /><br />And you keep referring to whether or not he is dead. Why is that? Does being dead make one look more like Barry to you? Are you saying Martin being dead is what makes Barry thinks he looks like he could be Barry's son if he had one? I'm not getting why you keep bringing that up.<br /><br /><i>"And you're not?"</i><br /><br />No, I'm not. I'm consistently referring to facts that are known about the case, the people involved and the history of the neighborhood. You're the one making assumptions. <br /><br /><i>"I believe YOU are the one who brought up the question of who is the "victim". Regardless of what happened, the parents are victims."</i><br /><br />Barry's expression of sympathy to only one side of this equation suggests the other side is not worthy of consideration. It suggests the opinion that the dead kid is the victim as opposed to the possibility he was righteously shot while committing a crime, which seems to be the case as far as the known facts indicate. You want to suggest Barry's expression was innocently made, which may be the case, but still suggests something about which he hasn't facts enough to suggest. That's why his comments were unwise, if not totally stupid. <br /><br /><i>"In my opinion, like most people who would read his full statement, he wisely and SPECIFICALLY did not take a side."</i><br /><br />Like you, many people don't think deeply enough but instead react to the superficial. He took a side by virtue of the specific words he used, whether he intended to or not. <br /><br /><i>"I think we can all agree that Zimmerman wasn't dead."</i><br /><br />You apparently believe yourself clever, but this does not take into consideration the very real possibility that being put in a situation where he felt the need to shoot a kid has a great negative impact on him. That kinda makes you a thoughtless prick. A righteous shooting, as this appears to be considering the facts that are known, does not mean the shooter doesn't live with terrible remorse and regret and second guessing from the perspective of hindsight. Yeah. You ARE a thoughtless prick.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-52550859115459140922012-04-26T11:44:30.396-04:002012-04-26T11:44:30.396-04:00I'm looking at two pictures and I haven't ...<i>I'm looking at two pictures and I haven't seen one of Martin that is as close a match.</i><br /><br />You really are doing that? You are actually going so far as to comparing pictures to see if you can somehow justify your crazy notion that Obama more closely resembles Zimmerman than Martin? And that's not stupid? It will never prove that Zimmerman was more dead than Martin.<br /><br /><i>You're obviously doing all you can to frame the situation in one particular and narrow manner.</i><br /><br />And you're not?<br /><br /><i>he didn't know jack-shit about the case so that making any expression to either side was unwise and shows he is making an assumption</i>.<br /><br />The only assumptions he made was that the boy was dead and that his parents were grieving. He assumed those things because they were facts. Nothing in his statement could be construed by an honest, non-Obama-hating person as taking a side. In my opinion, like most people who would read his full statement, he <i>wisely</i> and SPECIFICALLY did not take a side.<br /><br /><i>He, Barry, assumed the dead guy was the victim of whatever altercation occurred.</i><br /><br />Who the HELL is Barry?<br /><br />As to the president, I didn't hear the word "victim" come out of his lips, did you? He said that what happened was "a tragedy". If this whole incident had been a drug deal gone bad, for the parents of Martin, as it would be for anybody, it was a tragedy. I believe YOU are the one who brought up the question of who is the "victim". Regardless of what happened, the parents are victims.<br /><br /><i>Barry, made no equal expression toward Zimmerman.</i><br /><br />Barry who?<br /><br />I think we can all agree that Zimmerman wasn't dead.<br /><br /><i>I believe you DENY the reality that it slants perceptions to expression sympathy to one side.</i><br /><br />And I believe that you are among the very few people, even among Obama-haters, that think his remarks have any particular, much less meaningful, impact on people's perceptions on this issue, especially any of those who would be involved in adjudicating the case.<br /><br /><i>Are you kidding? You can have "almost" or you can have "exactly"</i><br /><br />You are really getting hard up here, aren't you?<br /><br /><i>His presidency was supposed to end all racism</i><br /><br />Where did you learn that?<br /><br /><i>And yes, I have no doubt that Palin would have responded in a far more intelligent manner because she IS more intelligent.</i><br /><br />Have you ever listened to Palin speak?<br /><br /><i>You take Martin's death out of the context in which it was presented to Barry....The issue is that I would NOT sympathize with one side of a tragedy as if I knew the dead kid was a victim when I knew nothing of the case.</i><br /><br />Who the HELL is Barry?<br /><br />I've watched the video and read the president's remarks several times. I'm not sure what you mean about the "context in which is was presented". The word victim was not mentioned once, either by the reporter or the president.<br /><br />He said, "Obviously this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy [the dead one], I think about my own kids. And I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this...to figure out what actually happened."<br /><br />Where in this is he taking a side?<br /><br /><i>Barry was asked about the case, not about how he would feel to hear some kid got shot.</i><br /><br />What does this guy Barry have to do with anything?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-47630213442133180542012-04-26T00:49:18.730-04:002012-04-26T00:49:18.730-04:00"How far can you go with this stupidity?"...<i>"How far can you go with this stupidity?"</i><br /><br />There's nothing stupid about it. Between the two, Zimmerman more closely resembles Obama. It's got nothing to do with his age, only that the resemblance is stronger than between Martin and Obama. I'm looking at two pictures and I haven't seen one of Martin that is as close a match. <br /><br /><i>"In a million years I cannot imagine why ANYONE would express empathy to the PARENTS of man who (unknown to the president) may have been injured in a scuffle."</i><br /><br />You're obviously doing all you can to frame the situation in one particular and narrow manner. But then, I'm not expecting the president to express anything special toward Zimmerman, but only that he didn't know jack-shit about the case so that making any expression to either side was unwise and shows he is making an assumption he had no business making based on his not knowing jack-shit about the case.<br /><br /><i>"I'm pretty sure that the president correctly assumed that Martin was no longer alive, being a victim of death."</i><br /><br />"Victim of death"? Really? You're going to run with THAT? No. He, Barry, assumed the dead guy was the victim of whatever altercation occurred. Giving condolences to Martin's parents, despite whatever good intentions he might have had, assumes what he can't know, especially given that he, Barry, made no equal expression toward Zimmerman. If you can't understand how this slants perceptions, you're an idiot. But I don't believe that's the case. I believe it is worse. I believe you DENY the reality that it slants perceptions to expression sympathy to one side.<br /><br /><i>"Which is almost EXACTLY what he said:"</i><br /><br />"<i>Almost</i> exactly"? Are you kidding? You can have "almost" or you can have "exactly", but not both. In any case, it isn't exactly enough, but still too far from what the smartest guy in the room should have said. Too bad the teleprompter was available. <br /><br /><i>"How stupid are you? Are you suggesting that the first minority president would set aside any consciousness of his race or this history of America as it relates to his race just because he has become the president? Would you have expected Palin to have denied her gender or never thought in terms of her gender (Grizzly mom, hockey mom) had she become president?"</i><br /><br />First off, not stupid at all as long as you are a part of the discussion. His presidency was supposed to end all racism, but now, for the second time, we're to accept that he can't separate his race from what should be said or done? Clearly, it is you who is the stupid one here. <br /><br />And yes, I have no doubt that Palin would have responded in a far more intelligent manner because she IS more intelligent. And no, she would NOT consider her own gender in instances where gender isn't an issue, as in this case race was not an issue. I have no gripe with Barry bringing up his own experiences as a half-black child should it have an y bearing on an issue. It doesn't here. Not in the least.<br /><br /><i>"Call me racist, but I can empathize with Trayvon's parents."</i><br /><br />No, I call you stupidly dishonest for thinking that crap will work. You take Martin's death out of the context in which it was presented to Barry. I don't have any son and I would sympathize with any parent who lost a child. THAT is not the issue. The issue is that I would NOT sympathize with one side of a tragedy as if I knew the dead kid was a victim when I knew nothing of the case. Barry was asked about the case, not about how he would feel to hear some kid got shot.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-43532664685694084922012-04-25T11:58:17.133-04:002012-04-25T11:58:17.133-04:00Obama has expressed no empathy in the case involvi...<i>Obama has expressed no empathy in the case involving Tyrone Woodfork. Why not?</i><br /><br />No doubt because nobody has ever asked him a question about it.<br /><br /><i>Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't recall his ever making such a statement about ANY such specific crime.</i><br /><br />Can you recall any specific crimes being brought up at a press conference or interview? Neither can I. That's probably why he has never commented on them.<br /><br /><i>Yet, Obama did make a statement regarding the case of Zimmerman-Martin.</i><br /><br />Right or wrong, the media, urged on by the Martin family, brought this case to national attention. The president was asked about THIS incident. And he commented.<br /><br />And those comments bear no resemblance to Nixon's in the Manson case. Nixon asserted that Manson was guilty. Obama said, "I’ve got to be careful about my statements to make sure that we’re not impairing any investigation that’s taking place right now." Then he expressed sympathy for the parents of the dead boy, because he was, uh, dead.<br /><br /><i>Obama's statement [has] poisoned the jury pool.</i><br /><br />That's pure nonsense.<br /><br /><i>Very subjective and very much the opinion of someone arrogant enough to pass judgement on someone with whom you are not familiar.</i><br /><br />Zimmerman was a man. Check. Zimmerman was carrying a gun. Check. Martin was unarmed. Check. It was 7:00 PM in February so it was dark. Check. Martin told his girlfriend on the phone he was being followed. Zimmerman told the 911 dispatcher he was following Martin. Zimmerman was following Martin. Check.<br /><br />Where is the subjectivity here?<br /><br /><i>The more I compare, the more I think Zimmerman DOES bear a closer resemblance to Obama than did Martin.</i><br /><br />How far can you go with this stupidity? Martin had parents. Obama is a parent. Martin was dead. In a million years I cannot imagine why ANYONE would express empathy to the PARENTS of man who (unknown to the president) may have been injured in a scuffle.<br /><br />Obama has been married for 19 years. His oldest child is 14 this year. Zimmerman is 28 years old. If Obama had a son, he would not look like George Zimmerman.<br /><br /><i>And small minded people would likely jump to the conclusion that he was the aggressor simply because he had the weapon</i><br /><br />Or maybe because he told the 911 dispatcher that he was following Martin and Martin's girlfriend said that Martin said on the phone that he was being followed.<br /><br /><i>Barry knew NOTHING about the incident</i><br /><br />Who the HELL is Barry?<br /><br /><i>but chose to ASSUME that Martin was a victim</i><br /><br />I'm pretty sure that the president correctly assumed that Martin was no longer alive, being a victim of death.<br /><br /><i>He would not have been criticized for merely saying, "I'd prefer not to comment on a case under investigation and for which I have no information."</i><br /><br />Which is almost EXACTLY what he said: "I’ve got to be careful about my statements to make sure that we’re not impairing any investigation that’s taking place right now."<br /><br /><i>The "uniter" thinking in terms of race? Are you kidding me?</i><br /><br />How stupid are you? Are you suggesting that the first minority president would set aside any consciousness of his race or this history of America as it relates to his race just because he has become the president? Would you have expected Palin to have denied her gender or never thought in terms of her gender (Grizzly mom, hockey mom) had she become president?<br /><br />You know, I have a son about about the same age as Trayvon. He dresses exactly like Trayvon. We're both as white as the new-fallen snow. But my son looks like Trayvon. Call me racist, but I can empathize with Trayvon's parents.<br /><br /><i>Using your own stupid logic, would only dead people look like Barry's son if he had one?</i><br /><br />Who the HELL is Barry?<br /><br />That's your logic. My logic is empathy is expressed to the people whose son is dead.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-7543917555070391092012-04-24T13:19:05.825-04:002012-04-24T13:19:05.825-04:00"To me, he was a man with a gun following an ...<i>"To me, he was a man with a gun following an unarmed person around in the dark."</i><br /><br />Very subjective and very much the opinion of someone arrogant enough to pass judgement on someone with whom you are not familiar. The fact is that he was a neighborhood watch volunteer who was concerned about a person whose actions seemed to him suspicious. That he happened to be in possession of a gun, where having one is apparently legal carry one is irrelevant. You choose to believe that for one to carry a weapon means he is also looking for an excuse to use it. I carry a knife. Though I use it as a cutting tool when one is needed, I carry it for self-defense purposes. I hope to never need it for that purpose and do not look forward to having to use it for that purpose. If my mentally challenged state officials would remove their heads from their hindquarters, I might carry a gun instead with the same hope that it will never be fired against anyone for any reason.<br /><br /><i>"This Zimmermann looks more like Obama than a boy in a hoodie is some of the most inane crap I've heard yet."</i><br /><br />More subjectivity. The more I compare, the more I think Zimmerman DOES bear a closer resemblance to Obama than did Martin. You're apparently too hung up on color. Some of my own brother's facial characteristics compare closely with those of Scottie Pippen's (nose, cheekbones). My brother is not black. A child first made the comparison (small children do not seem to have a problem making such comparisons). One need not be of the same race to resemble another person.<br /><br /><i>"At that time, there was little if anything known about Zimmermann, his possible injuries or much of anything else, only that he did have a gun."</i><br /><br />And small minded people would likely jump to the conclusion that he was the aggressor simply because he had the weapon, dispensing with the notion that some people carry weapons to prevent their being victimized by others. Barry knew NOTHING about the incident but chose to ASSUME that Martin was a victim, rather than the righteous recipient of a justified shooting (assuming it is so determined at the conclusion of the investigation and trial). Based on his having no details, he had no right to make such an assumption.<br /><br /><i>"So why wouldn't Obama express empathy for the parents of a dead person."</i><br /><br />Because, as I have said, he had no idea WHY he was dead. He would not have been criticized for merely saying, "I'd prefer not to comment on a case under investigation and for which I have no information." THAT would have been an answer the smartest guy in the room would give.<br /><br /><i>"I imagine that one way or another this is a guy who has been conscious of race his entire life. So what?"</i><br /><br />The "uniter" thinking in terms of race? Are you kidding me? You say "so what" to a statement about the leader of the free world thinking in terms of race? Are you that stupid? (rhetorical question)<br /><br /><i>"Obama does not have a thirty-year-old son."</i><br /><br />Age has no bearing on whether or not one can be compared as a relation.<br /><br /><i>"Oh and also, Zimmermann was not dead."</i><br /><br />Using your own stupid logic, would only dead people look like Barry's son if he had one?Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-87694201339845516012012-04-24T06:59:12.865-04:002012-04-24T06:59:12.865-04:00Wow. See "Eight Minutes You Missed," th...Wow. See <a href="http://primordialslack.com/?p=2309" rel="nofollow">"Eight Minutes You Missed,"</a> the entire statement from Zimmerman's former attorney.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-83435866975559014632012-04-24T06:58:00.934-04:002012-04-24T06:58:00.934-04:00Jim,
Look up "Richard Nixon Charles Manson.&q...Jim,<br />Look up "Richard Nixon Charles Manson."<br /><br />A President speaking in such a manner about a trial case with a verdict can tank the entire trial.<br /><br />All this media furor and Obama's statement have poisoned the jury pool. Think about it. If <b>YOU</b> were on trial for a crime and all that furor and a President's statement occurred, how could you get a fair trial?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-68079130634888790232012-04-24T06:49:23.104-04:002012-04-24T06:49:23.104-04:00Obama has expressed no empathy in the case involvi...Obama has expressed no empathy in <a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/douggiles/2012/04/08/blacks_can_murder_whites_and_it_wont_make_national_news" rel="nofollow">the case involving Tyrone Woodfork</a>. Why not?<br /><br />BTW, Obama has rarely spoken out about specific instances of violent crime. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't recall his ever making such a statement about <b>ANY</b> such specific crime. Yet, Obama did make a statement regarding the case of Zimmerman-Martin.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-17239955481814988112012-04-24T00:45:16.048-04:002012-04-24T00:45:16.048-04:00people like you chose to regard him as "a whi...<i>people like you chose to regard him as "a white Hispanic". </i><br /><br />I don't believe I've ever described him in such a manner. It's irrelevant. To me, he was a man with a gun following an unarmed person around in the dark.<br /><br />This Zimmermann looks more like Obama than a boy in a hoodie is some of the most inane crap I've heard yet. It's simply stupid. The president expressed empathy for the parents of the dead boy. At that time, there was little if anything known about Zimmermann, his possible injuries or much of anything else, only that he did have a gun.<br /><br />But one thing was clear. A boy was dead. So why wouldn't Obama express empathy for the parents of a dead person.<br /><br /><i>This is without a doubt a guy thinking in terms of race.</i><br /><br />I imagine that one way or another this is a guy who has been conscious of race his entire life. So what?<br /><br /><i>support your weak position</i><br /><br />It is to laugh.<br /><br /><i>Zimmerman is every bit comparable to Obama</i><br /><br />Obama does not have a thirty-year-old son. Oh and also, Zimmermann was not dead.<br /><br /><i>Barry felt the need</i><br /><br />Who the HELL is Barry?<br /><br /><i>Zimmerman will be marched off to appease the animals</i><br /><br />What can I say?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-85809233411199536632012-04-23T16:01:26.216-04:002012-04-23T16:01:26.216-04:00Bless you Jim for jumping into this snake pit.Bless you Jim for jumping into this snake pit.Parklifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-79640798794832748192012-04-23T13:34:02.321-04:002012-04-23T13:34:02.321-04:00"Holy sh*t! Seriously? Obama looks half white...<i>"Holy sh*t! Seriously? Obama looks half white? If you never met him or heard anything about him, you would think he looks half white?"</i><br /><br />And every picture I've seen of Zimmerman suggests a man of Hispanic heritage, but not a white guy, until people like you chose to regard him as "a white Hispanic". <br /><br />But that really doesn't address my point at all, which is that he said Martin could be his son BECAUSE Martin is black. This is without a doubt a guy thinking in terms of race. And again, you disregard the link that showed pics of both Obama and Zimmerman, both dark skinned, both in suits, both with short hair---the physical similarities far closer than a black kid in a hoodie. <br /><br /><i>"because he's a Democrat and a community organizer<br /><br />This makes him look like Obama?"</i><br /><br />I've no doubt that you go out of your way to nit-pick in order to support your weak position, and this is more proof. In the context of my commentary, I was only trying to point out that between the two, Zimmerman is every bit comparable to Obama, and likely more so than was Martin, skin color being the least relevant. But Barry felt the need to "adopt" the dead black kid with his statement that Trayvon looks like he could've been his kid. That statement alone is taking sides. This is true even if it was unconscious in nature. But you're way too up Obama's butt to admit it.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-68141855644128103482012-04-23T10:06:02.300-04:002012-04-23T10:06:02.300-04:00Jim, "The reason it became a big deal is that...Jim, "The reason it became a big deal is that the local law enforcement agency did not complete a thorough investigation to the satisfaction of the dead person's parents. So they decided to do something about that the best way they could."<br /><br />I've seen this with white victims with white assailants and white victims with black assailants. They don't make the news.<br /><br />Zimmerman will go to prison to avoid riots. That's it in a nutshell. There will be a big horse and pony show. Blah, blah, blah, and Zimmerman will be marched off to appease the animals ... I mean people.Krystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256521369614598137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-88304948922359608302012-04-23T10:04:53.199-04:002012-04-23T10:04:53.199-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Krystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256521369614598137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-49443426530883535432012-04-23T00:48:29.822-04:002012-04-23T00:48:29.822-04:00it would make sense if he made that statement the ...<i>it would make sense if he made that statement the way I suggested that he explain it.</i><br /><br />I'm sure you could make anything make sense if it was explained your way.<br /><br /><i>Zimmerman looks more like Obama because he's half white</i><br /><br />Holy sh*t! Seriously? Obama looks half white? If you never met him or heard anything about him, you would think he looks half white?<br /><br /><i>because he's a Democrat and a community organizer </i><br /><br />This makes him look like Obama?<br /><br />Krystal, I respect your comments. I understand your frustration and I can't say I don't feel the same sometime. However, as I said on another thread here or on a related blog, the reason this particular case became a big deal is not Zimmermann's motives, black-on-white or white-on-black or any other color crime, or Obama's non-existent taking of sides. The reason it became a big deal is that the local law enforcement agency did not complete a thorough investigation to the satisfaction of the dead person's parents. So they decided to do something about that the best way they could.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-58103620410561033182012-04-22T23:52:25.165-04:002012-04-22T23:52:25.165-04:00Jim, my point is that the Z-M issue is getting mor...Jim, my point is that the Z-M issue is getting more air time than pretty much all black on white crime combined. It creates hatred. It creates resentment. Where are the black leaders marching for justice when a black student puts a gun to a white teacher's head and pulls the trigger?<br /><br />I'll tell you where they were. They were screaming and marching and making threats because it would be wrong to put a promising young black youth in prison for life (for going home, loading a gun, changing his clothes to easily conceal, walking back to school, chit chatting with some other teachers and students, walking into his teacher's classroom, telling him he would never see his children again, putting the gun again the man's head, and then pulling the trigger).<br /><br />Where was the black leadership when a young black man (19) pulled a gun on two cops, one Latino and the other black, and wound up being shot dead? They certainly weren't looking for ways to address the issue of drugs and crime in the black community. They yelled racism instead (the Latino cop killed the kid but the black cop said he was about to fire himself). The black community ended up rioting and destroying their own neighborhood (which the county and state paid to rebuild using only black companies because black leadership demanded it).<br /><br />Personally, I'm getting pretty damned tire of hearing how horrible black people have it, how they are always victims of racism, and how racist white people are. Really? White people lock their car doors when a group of black youths with their pants hanging halfway down their ass with their heads covered in the middle of the day in 90 degree weather? I freaking wonder why?! <br /><br />Zimmerman, while possible wrong (I believe there are witnesses afraid to come forward due to intimidation and seriously? he calls the cops and then shoots someone?) is nothing more than a symptom of a much larger problem no one is willing to address. It's much easier, not to mention much more politically correct, to point the finger anywhere other than where it belongs. <br /><br />Just ask Bill Cosby how much attention you get and the reaction you get if you stand up and say the problem isn't white people. It's black people choosing to live like they do.<br /><br />Of course, he's an Uncle Tom.Krystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256521369614598137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-32186781333275066482012-04-22T22:30:14.606-04:002012-04-22T22:30:14.606-04:00"That since Zimmermann saw an unknown black p...<i>"That since Zimmermann saw an unknown black person in his neighborhood, he was justified in assuming he was engaged in criminal activity?"</i><br /><br />This statement ASSUMES that Zimmerman was first aware of Martin's color and for that reason decided to MONITOR his movements. That IS what neighborhood watch people do, Jim. They monitor the movements of people who, for whatever reason, appear suspicious to the watchman. <br /><br /><i>""If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon". Would Obama have said that if Trayvon Martin had been white? I don't think so.<br /><br />Of course not. Why would he? It wouldn't make sense."</i><br /><br />Of course it would make sense if he made that statement the way I suggested that he explain it. Just look at the picture of Martin that the press elected to display in the first days following the publicizing of the events. A middle school picture of a smiling boy. Skin color notwithstanding, he could stand as a symbol for ANYBODY'S son. <br /><br /><i>"making him more "like" Obama than Martin.<br /><br />Inane remark. Zimmerman wasn't dead. Martin was."</i><br /><br />Read the comment in context, fool. Unless you're suggesting that Martin looks like Obama because he's dead. Zimmerman looks more like Obama because he's half white and because he's a Democrat and a community organizer and like Obama, hasn't been pictured wearing a hoodie. <br /><br /><i>"Picked a side? How?"</i><br /><br />Answered in the very quote this stupid question followed.<br /><br /><i>""It seems to many?" It also seems to many that there have been alien abductions."</i><br /><br />What your family believes is irrelevant.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12507451.post-73639539279695175142012-04-22T18:23:29.740-04:002012-04-22T18:23:29.740-04:00In most interracial crimes (not just murder), the ...<i>In most interracial crimes (not just murder), the victim is white and the assailant is black.</i><br /><br />Thanks again for the statistics, Krystal. I don't doubt them. But what exactly is your point? That since Zimmermann saw an unknown black person in his neighborhood, he was justified in assuming he was engaged in criminal activity?<br /><br />Or what?<br /><br />Or is it that Obama doesn't talk about black-on-white crime? Has he talked about ANY crime? I don't think local crime is one of his top priorities other than providing money to municipalities to help keep their police officers employed. So why would he be making comments about crime one way or another?<br /><br /><i>"If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon". Would Obama have said that if Trayvon Martin had been white? I don't think so.</i><br /><br />Of course not. Why would he? It wouldn't make sense. Obama was asked a question and he said that he didn't know the facts well enough to comment. The worst that can be said of his comment is that he was saying, "Trayvon was black. I am black." That's it.<br /><br /><i>No big deal to me, but it is normal and correct to notice the race of another person.</i><br /><br />Can't argue with that. So either noting another person's race (which is the only thing Obama can really be accused of) is NOT racist, or else everyone is racist.<br /><br /><i>making him more "like" Obama than Martin.</i><br /><br />Inane remark. Zimmerman wasn't dead. Martin was.<br /><br /><i>Without knowing anything about the case, it assumes Martin is the victim.</i><br /><br />In other words the death of a young person deserves sympathy ONLY if the person has been proved completely innocent? Regardless, there was then and still today is no evidence whatsoever that Martin was engaged in any criminal activity.<br /><br /><i>if Zimmerman's story turns out to be true, then obviously he is the victim here.</i><br /><br />This is a non-sequitur. His story can be completely true, and yet a person who was not engaged in a criminal activity was shot dead. There is no evidence whatsoever that Martin was out looking for someone to jump and beat up. In fact, there IS evidence that he was trying to get away from Zimmermann. All evidence indicates that Zimmerman initiated the events which led to the death. Zimmermann may be a victim of the events, but no more so than Martin.<br /><br /><i>Whether Barry meant to sound racist or not</i><br /><br />Who is Barry?<br /><br /><i>he would have withheld any opinion until he knew all the facts.</i><br /><br />He offered no opinion. None.<br /><br /><i>he picked a side based on who was dead and, it seems to many, what color he was.</i><br /><br />Picked a side? How?<br /><br />"It seems to many?" It also seems to many that there have been alien abductions.<br /><br /><i>Then when Obama discussed the case so soon</i><br /><br />Obama did not discuss the case. He declined to discuss the case.<br /><br /><i>SOme day, maybe Mr. Obama will use his powers for something good;</i><br /><br />What a horse sh*t statement!<br /><br /><i>it would be wonderful to see him talk to kids in America about gangs, about black on black crime among kids and how that MUST stop</i><br /><br />He talks to kids all the time about what it takes to raise themselves out of poverty, out of crime, including personal responsibility and a need to stay in school and get an education. What, is he supposed to specifically gather a bunch of black children and say, "Yo, you got to stop killing each other"?<br /><br /><i>maybe even enlighten them about how Planned Parenthood started</i><br /><br />Ahhh, now I get it. He's purposely "ignoring" black on black crime because we WANTS to reduce the black population and since eugenics is becoming unfunded, he'll just let them do it themselves.<br /><br />But then he'll be losing votes, right? BTW, Planned Parenthood was not started to keep black people from reproducing. Thank goodness, because we really need their votes.<br /><br />Sheesh!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.com